Refreshing Leadership

S2.20: Serve To Lead - Blending Experience, Trust, and Authenticity with Brigadier Clare Phillips CBE

February 02, 2024 Kate Brassington Season 2 Episode 20
S2.20: Serve To Lead - Blending Experience, Trust, and Authenticity with Brigadier Clare Phillips CBE
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Refreshing Leadership
S2.20: Serve To Lead - Blending Experience, Trust, and Authenticity with Brigadier Clare Phillips CBE
Feb 02, 2024 Season 2 Episode 20
Kate Brassington

Ever wanted a kitchen table natter with a really approachable, but super effective person, to ask them “but hang on, how did you do that”? Well that is exactly what I got to do with Clare Phillips, and the result is this week’s podcast episode.

I’m so pleased that my tenuous link with Brigadier Clare Phillips CBE (we were both at Royal Military College Sandhurst at the same time, she was in the intake above me) and her genuinely open and helpful personality, meant that when I scooted her a message to ask if she’s be willing to chat with me for the podcast, she said yes immediately!

Clare is currently serving as the Deputy Military Secretary at the Army Personnel Centre in Glasgow. With career highlights such as being Co-Chair of the Army LGBT+ Network, and REME Corps Colonel (2016-2018), you know she has some interesting stories to tell.

I knew it was going to be a great chat when her answer to my first question began “Well, that happened by accident, which I think is the beginning of all good stories…”


Here are some timestamps:

07:45 Historical women's role stereotypes.

15:43 Motivation theory: competence, autonomy, relatedness, self-determination.

20:12 Resilience in high- and low-trust environments impact.

23:26 Reflections and advice on workplace trust.

29:47 Building trust and connections to inspire others.

35:02 Appreciating great leadership and the loneliness of command.

43:11 Realization of sexual orientation, changes in society.

47:43 Connection between trauma, leadership, and LGBTQ community.

53:53 Trauma-informed approach acknowledges suffering, but voices matter.

59:23 Gratitude for healing in community after inquiry.

01:04:15 Questioning male leadership, exploring gender and authenticity.

01:09:58 Strive to be positive and consistent daily.

01:15:30 1-on-1 support for mental health and leaders.


If you enjoyed this or found it useful please subscribe on the show website, https://refreshingleadership.buzzsprout.com/
You can listen on most platforms, or scroll through all the episodes on my website here.
I write a companion blog to each episode - they are all on my website here.

Do please share this link, and if you'd like, give it a rating or leave a review (wherever you listen) will help the podcast reach more people.

Thank you!

To continue the conversation go to:
Website: https://katebrassington.com/ (where you can easily message me)
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kate-brassington/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/katebrassingto3
Email: kate@katebrassington.com

Show Notes

Ever wanted a kitchen table natter with a really approachable, but super effective person, to ask them “but hang on, how did you do that”? Well that is exactly what I got to do with Clare Phillips, and the result is this week’s podcast episode.

I’m so pleased that my tenuous link with Brigadier Clare Phillips CBE (we were both at Royal Military College Sandhurst at the same time, she was in the intake above me) and her genuinely open and helpful personality, meant that when I scooted her a message to ask if she’s be willing to chat with me for the podcast, she said yes immediately!

Clare is currently serving as the Deputy Military Secretary at the Army Personnel Centre in Glasgow. With career highlights such as being Co-Chair of the Army LGBT+ Network, and REME Corps Colonel (2016-2018), you know she has some interesting stories to tell.

I knew it was going to be a great chat when her answer to my first question began “Well, that happened by accident, which I think is the beginning of all good stories…”


Here are some timestamps:

07:45 Historical women's role stereotypes.

15:43 Motivation theory: competence, autonomy, relatedness, self-determination.

20:12 Resilience in high- and low-trust environments impact.

23:26 Reflections and advice on workplace trust.

29:47 Building trust and connections to inspire others.

35:02 Appreciating great leadership and the loneliness of command.

43:11 Realization of sexual orientation, changes in society.

47:43 Connection between trauma, leadership, and LGBTQ community.

53:53 Trauma-informed approach acknowledges suffering, but voices matter.

59:23 Gratitude for healing in community after inquiry.

01:04:15 Questioning male leadership, exploring gender and authenticity.

01:09:58 Strive to be positive and consistent daily.

01:15:30 1-on-1 support for mental health and leaders.


If you enjoyed this or found it useful please subscribe on the show website, https://refreshingleadership.buzzsprout.com/
You can listen on most platforms, or scroll through all the episodes on my website here.
I write a companion blog to each episode - they are all on my website here.

Do please share this link, and if you'd like, give it a rating or leave a review (wherever you listen) will help the podcast reach more people.

Thank you!

To continue the conversation go to:
Website: https://katebrassington.com/ (where you can easily message me)
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kate-brassington/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/katebrassingto3
Email: kate@katebrassington.com