Refreshing Leadership

S2.32: Credible, Fast-Talking, Fascinating; A Kitchen-Table Chat With Dr Natalie Lancer, Chair of BPS Division of Coaching Psychology

Kate Brassington Season 2 Episode 32

This episode is a quick, energising and inspiring canter through the fields of coaching psychology, existentialism, neuroscience, leadership, and what it is like to be a senior leader inside the Division of Coaching Psychology! 

Dr. Natalie Lancer is absolutely a role model for me as she unashamedly brings a blend of psychology expertise to sit alongside deep knowledge and understanding not just through the eyes of professionals, but real-life people. 

As you can imagine I was especially interested to hear her thoughts on the emerging field of trauma-informed coaching alongside her deep dive knowledge of existentialism. 


I loved that I (mostly) could keep up with Dr Natalie, and her generosity and vulnerability in what she said. I hope you enjoy listening as much as I did!


A snapshot of what we cover:

Dynamic Leadership; how to be available and really listen to a huge group of people.

Unblocking Progress: The hilarious analogy of Dr Natalie’s “inner plumber” leadership qualities, her natural skill as a connector, and how she drives change for progress.

Coaching for Now: the magic of what happens in coaching psychology practice.

Ethics and Adaptation: The vital role of ethical codes and ongoing professional development which coaching psychologists take very seriously.

Academic Vs. Applied Balance: The tension (or blend) between academic precision and real-time client communication in the leadership field.


Some timestamps:


00:00 Differing perspectives on existentialism and psychology.

07:03 Coaching psychologists have diverse backgrounds and roles.

13:52 Balancing academic language with practical client communication.

16:00 Using metaphor and heuristic to communicate knowledge.

22:15 Coaching academic leaders in unique leadership challenges.

26:27 Finding connections between coaching and different backgrounds.

29:25 Questioning expertise, critical reading, knowledge evaluation.

32:38 Integrating CPD into practice requires courage.

41:37 Positive experiences.

52:18 Chair of Senate at BPS, representing others.

You can read more from Natalie including her books, research papers and more, on her website, and you can message her on LinkedIn.

Read my companion blog to this episode on my website here.


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